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the re-election of president obama was a good thing or bad thing you think? >> well, i don't ever get into politics as you know, charlie. i've always said i'm not right wing or left wing, i'm for the whole bird. >> evidently, god wanted president obama, he had a purpose for him, to be re-elected. do i follow that? what's the disconnect between those thoughts? god has a purpose -- >> we don't know god's purpose in a lot of events. i mean, i was at the notre dame/usc game on saturday night. people were praying for both sides to win. i don't think god has an opinion. >> god didn't care? >> god didn't have an opinion in that. >> but god does have an opinion in your life -- >> god's more interested in your character than your career. you're not taking your career to heaven. you are taking your character. so really what you do is not nearly as important as who you've become. and i would say god is extremely interested in who barack obama's becoming or who mitt romney's becoming or who you or i or nora are becoming because that's the character issue that's going to outlast o
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